…or so you’d think if you got all your information about Catholicism from blog comboxes.
Not surprisingly, Pope Francis has been in the news lately. The media jumped on his offhand comments about homosexuals, breathlessly reported on a letter he wrote to an atheist, and made much hay over an interview given by the Vatican’s new Secretary of State (the media was apparently under the impression that Pope Francis is a very clever ventriloquist, and he was the one talking while the new Secretary’s mouth was moving – at least, that’s what they reported).
A common refrain I’m observing in the comboxes of various Catholic bloggers lately, when said blogger discusses one of these media reports, goes something like this:
“The Pope needs to stop making remarks like this! They’re too easily misunderstood! No one should have to write an article after the fact explaining what the Pope actually said/meant. The Pope needs to deliberate for hours on end before so much as opening his mouth! Every word must be crafted with the utmost perfection so that the media doesn’t get the wrong idea!” etc., etc.
And, my favorite:
“This kind of thing never happened when Benedict XVI/John Paul II was Pope!”
To these people, I respond:
Really? That’s some pretty amazing selective memory you have going on there. Granted, I’ve only been Catholic for the last ten years, but I remember:
The Condom Kerfuffle, in which the MSM proclaimed that Pope Benedict said condoms were perfectly okay for everyone to use (when he actually said that in certain situations, the use of a condom could indicate that someone was trying to act in a moral fashion by not spreading disease, and that trying to act morally could be a good first step on the road to repentance).
Pope Benedict’s speech at the University of Regensburg, in which (according to the media) the Pope said that Mohammed was evil incarnate and all Muslims were going to hell. (The Pope later explained that his words had been misunderstood by Muslims.)
The publication of Benedict’s encyclical Caritas in Veritate, in which the MSM announced that the Pope attacked capitalism as always evil in any circumstance and wholeheartedly supported the Occupy Wall Street movement.
The motu proprio Summorum Pontificum was, according to the media, Pope Benedict’s last ditch attempt to revive a dying church by resurrecting a dead language.
John Paul II’s release of Dominus Iesus in 2000 spawned dozens of newspaper headlines (one of which I remember seeing in my college newspaper) proclaiming that “the Pope says non-Catholics aren’t really Christians!”
In Ordinatio Sacerdotalis, John Paul II stated unequivocally, “Wherefore, in order that all doubt may be removed regarding a matter of great importance, a matter which pertains to the Church’s divine constitution itself, in virtue of my ministry of confirming the brethren […] I declare that the Church has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women and that this judgment is to be definitively held by all the Church’s faithful” (emphasis mine). Seems pretty straightforward, but the MSM headlines in response? “Pope’s words about women’s ordination spark debate” or similar.
I’m sure I could list hundreds of examples dating back decades, if not centuries, about how the media flagrantly and deliberately misrepresents a pope’s statements, leading to a need for the Vatican et al to issue a clarification. This is not a new phenomenon. The media does not exist to tell the truth – it exists to make people rich. Juicy headlines sell newspapers and garner millions of website hits, which generate revenue. “Pope Reiterates 2,000-year-old Teaching of the Church” doesn’t make money; “Pope Declares that All Atheists Go to Heaven” does. Truth has nothing to do with it, and this type of misrepresentation for personal gain is something that’s been happening as long as the papacy has existed.
Indeed, St. Peter himself could have been speaking about the mainstream media when he said, “But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.” (2 Peter 2:1-3)
Of course, in every combox you find at least one person lamenting that the current Pope is destroying the Catholic Church. One example:
“This is doctrinal immodesty, if I may use the phrase. Rather than clothe the precious doctrine of the Body of Christ in garments of sobriety, modesty and Prudence, the truths of the Church are being sold away [by Pope Francis, presumably] cheaply to the moral perverts and enemies of Christ.”
I’m very curious what the commenter in question would have had to say about some of the Church’s earlier Popes:
- Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.
- Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.
- Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who “sold” the Papacy
- Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante’s Divine Comedy
- Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.
- Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.
- Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors’ reserves on a single ceremony
- Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.
(The preceding examples are taken from E. Chamberlain’s book “The Bad Popes,” as summarized by Wikipedia.)
We once had a Pope who was murdered while engaging in the act of adultery – and the Church survived! After that, can anyone honestly believe that the Church will be utterly decimated and destroyed simply because the current pope made statements about atheists that were deliberately misconstrued by the media in order to boost ratings?! Perhaps the Holy Spirit is insulted by the implication that His protection of the Truth was considered so weak and ineffective.
So please, fellow Catholics, the proper response when reading a MSM headline about the Pope changing a long-held doctrine of Catholicism is not panic or rage or despair. Rather, it’s a yawn, an eye-roll, and a resigned sigh – as well as a realization that we’re once again called upon to engage in the new evangelization for the sake of the Kingdom in the realm of social media and among our friends and family.
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I’m very glad that someone wrote something like this. I became a Catholic when I was nine-years-old along with ten other family members, and I love my faith as strongly as a young full-blooded Irishman can.
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Do you really believe that JoAnna? Just take a look at this collection of Francis’ sayings (with links, each and every one) and then the corresponding quotes from more than 20 Popes, besides other saints, catechisms etc. : http://denzingerbergoglio.com/
These Spanish priests have REALLY done their homework. And they are no lefebrists, mind you.
THEN write another post. How about that?
I don’t speak Spanish, but I’ve looked at it with the aid of Google Translate. And I didn’t see anything alarming in what Pope Francis said. I looked at the quote they specified, in English, at the VIS. http://www.vis.va/vissolr/index.php?vi=all&dl=a95e43b3-489a-d45e-2eaf-55631a4a3c66&dl_t=text/xml&dl_a=y&ul=1&ev=1
Here is the PROOF that Jorge Mario Bergoglio (“pope” Francis) is a member of the ROTARY CLUB, a global Free-masonic organization. Right next to it (or below) I inserted what the Catholic Church has to say about belonging to the ROTARY CLUB.
and I suggest I go back to proof reading before I hit the submit button. Angels & singing and the like.
Anderson.
Sure just what we need another Evangelical, Lutheran heretic mommie blogger just recently turned kinda maybe Catholic. Mommie knows best, we need her to tell us real life long well informed Catholics all the angles and saints from the birth of Christ until Vatican II what we don’t know how. Sigh! we now have the love peace and harmony of the fifth dimensions signing in the heavens. All of this thanks to Francis. What a wonderful liberating protestant masonic kind heart-ed radical liberation theology communist pope he is. Yep worship of man is in and God is out. Jesus came to save us not from hell but feeling bad about ourselves. Of opinion and arses everybodys got one but they are not all equal. I suggest she goes back to doing something she knows about, Perhaps baking cookies.
I’ve been Catholic since 2003. Last time I checked, 12 years ago isn’t exactly “recent.”
As to your other comments, please, keep making them. There is no better way for you to display your obvious ignorance.
In those days, Pope Leo said to the clergy: ‘When Jesus the Son of Man shall come to the seat of our Majesty, say first of all, ‘Friend, wherefore art Thou come hither? And if He gives you naught in silver or gold, cast Him forth into outer darkness.'”
(A History of the Popes, Dr Joseph McCabe, ibid., vol. 2, chapter on “The Age of Power”
It was Pope Leo X who made the most infamous and damaging statement about Christianity in the history of the Church. His declaration revealed to the world papal knowledge of the Vatican’s false presentation of Jesus Christ and unashamedly exposed the puerile nature of the Christian religion. At a lavish Good Friday banquet in the Vatican in 1514, and in the company of “seven intimates” (Annales Ecclesiastici, Caesar Baronius, Folio Antwerp, 1597, tome 14), Leo made an amazing announcement that the Church has since tried hard to invalidate.
People leave the catholic church, His Spirit is not there, only antichrist, God only wants Jesus anything between Him and believers. My experience is that catholics are void of His Spirit and therefor believe the lies told there. It fills a religeous desire, but it is fake and empty.
In 2010 I recieved forgiveness and was filled with His Spirit. If the Pope, or any catholic would experience this also they would leave and never set foot in a catholic building ever again.
The popes you listed Joanna were guilty of mortal sins, not outright heresies contrary to revealed Catholic dogma. Mortal sin can be forgiven with sincere repentance, heresy is a blatant affront to God’s truth and NOONE who dies holding heresy enters the kingdom of God, a pope who holds heresy automatically loses his office without formality, is excommunicated ipso facto no longer a Catholic, this is revealed Truth. Who canonised the two saints in your family btw?
God canonized the two saints in my family. 🙂 I hope and trust in His mercy!
Pope Francis has never said or done anything heretical, so you don’t have to worry. 🙂
Let me start answering from the last question.
“I don’t think the differences between Catholic and
Latin America countries are as simple as
Catholic vs Protestant”
Very convenient answer! What else can you say?
Religious beliefs determine the behavior of people individually
and collectively and it determines how well a society as a whole behaves. Belief
system create the fabric of culture. That’s why people used to say “the
Christian West’ in comparison to the East. This is a proved fact and can be
easily observed. I can give well
attested and observed facts of religious
influence change the destiny of communities. It’s hilarious that you answer
with simple nos just to make you right. You are in fact trying to prove that
the word of God has no effect or the people of God can be no light in this
world.
“yup, those happened, in all human institutions,
not just the Catholic Church “. Name a couple of Protestant churches
whose head led a war and ordered killing of enemies. Yes, all have sinned, even
Paul said ‘what a wretched sinner I am”. I am not surprised how lightly
you try to justify centuries long inhuman atrocities of the Catholic church
with meaningless arguments. You have no
other option, I know!
Pope have apologized for many of these atrocities in the
last century but not for other sins like telling a lie, lusting etc. So all
sins are not as consequential as killing humans right? And only the Catholic church did
such inhuman atrocities while the command of the Lord was plain and clear – ‘love thy enemy’. Catholicism a true church? From God? Of God? ….. you are kidding.
Even if other churches (are others true churches?) have done
killings does that make Catholicism right?. As I said you can make only
meaningless arguments.
It doesn’t take much theological knowledge to understand if
a church is truly serving God . It can’t
be that Church which continued with a history of mass killings while ‘preserving’
the word of God which commanded not to kill and love thy enemy.
Look at ISIS. Thy are killing for a god!. This is what Catholicism
did with its papal authority. They did it for the God of the Bible? God of the Bible would keep His silence for
centuries if the Catholic church truly belonged to Him? Be honest and open.
“Can you please show me a church that in which
all its members are sinless?” Funny. The Pope apologized for the
Catholic Church’s wrong doings and not of its members. The Catholic Church under
the leadership of ‘holy’ Popes did all those beastly things. These are well acknowledged
things then why are you arguing with meaningless words. Yes, accepting faults
is accepting the Catholic church was and is not a Church directed by God. It’s
as simple as that. Many Catholics understand this dilemma.
“Do you have evidence to back up this assertion that
monasteries tortured human souls?”
It’s better to hear directly from ex monks and nuns than
from me. If the situation is worse now you can imagine what it was during the
time when Catholicism was anti human. I can easily give links but the number is
so large that it is better you do an online search. You can only argue against
facts.
“No, but He allows us to help” . You say God used the Catholic church to preserve
the Bible?. Again an unfounded argument. Have you really understood the God of
the Bible?. Do you think the God of the Bible would use a church which would
never practice what is written in it (do not kill, love they enemy) and
continue with its killing spree to preserve His precious word?. Study how the OT was preserved. Many secular
atheistic institutions and museums preserve
different versions of the Bible. Monasteries didn’t do any better. Not preserving
the Bible matters but doing it and that is what God is expecting of a true church.
“Look at the thousands of denominations that all claim to
interpret the Bible correctly.
They can’t all be right”
True, they can’t be all right on all matters but most of
them agree on certain basic Biblical matters which testify against Catholicism (
I mentioned some of which in my earlier comment). Even Paul and Peter had differences
but that doesn’t make them less Christians but they two agreed on the
fundamental things. Here the Catholic church is in error in the fundamental
matters such as how a person is saved.
Regarding worshipping graven image. I am quoting from the
article you quoted.
“The Catholic Church does not believe any statue or
image has any power in and of itself”. This is the non sense answer all pantheists
give especially, the largest of them the Hindus. And this is what the Israelites
said when they built an image while Moses was away with the Lord. This is
simply just another usual Catholic nonsense justification. If there’s no power
in an image and no need for a mediator as the Bible says why the hell you have
such things. It tells a lot about the Roman church’s’ origin.
“Prayer to saints (which includes Mary, but during the
time the NT was written Mary was still alive…” Yet another argument
which makes no sense.
The Catholic would use all kinds arguments to make their
position look right. The fact is we don’t see such things in the NT which was
written during the life time of Mary. Where did you get the idea that what you
say is more important than what is commanded and what is set as an example in
the NT?
About my usage of ‘pre advent’. I used it by mistake and what
I tried to mean was the period of time before Jesus’ first coming.
About Mary – queen of heaven. I am quoting below from your quoted article.
“This title “mother of my Lord” is packed with great
queenly significance”. See how cunningly and unintelligently this man
tries to fool people especially the Catholics.
I can give detailed reply to all those Catholic nonsense but
it’s beyond the scope of this comment section.
I am surprised how far you would go defending Catholicism. You
use faulty logic and twist facts. I know you have no other choice except doing
it. But know this there is a beautiful factual explanation for everything which
debunk the Catholic position altogether. I am happy millions turn away from Catholicism
and find the truth which sets them free.
So… you can’t back up any of your claims with actual evidence. thanks. That’s all I needed to know.
You need proof for atrocities the Catholic church did for centuries? need proof for Catholics around the world bow before statues of Mary?
You are living in your own insulated world where you want to hear only good and soothing words. But truth is hard and painful.
If you know how to use Google you can find some truth within half an hour.
Be a good Christian not a good Catholic. Bye.
I am being a good Christian by being a good Catholic.
And yes, I know people have committed atrocities in the name of Catholicism. People have committed atrocities in the name of Protestantism too. (Henry VIII, Elizabeth I persecution of Catholics…) people have also committed to atrocities in the name of Islam, and in the name of atheism. Not sure what that proves except that all human beings are sinful.
yes, Catholics honor Mary, just like Jesus did, and just like the Bible says we should (see the Magnificat). The question is, why don’t you? Do you oppose the Bible?
It’s funny reading all the previous comments. I wonder how many of them really take into account facts surrounding the Catholic church. Firstly it contradicts the clear written revelation in the Bible (There are so many resources available online for any truth seeker with an open mind). The Catholic Church has destroyed the name of Christianity with what it did through the dark ages. A true Church of God can never do these inhuman nasty things and continue with it for centuries (Only the dumb will believe otherwise).
See what is happening these days. Child sex scandals, financial scandals in Vatican, the Pope saying all nonsense,…….. .
And, now the real test. Compare the Catholic countries and the Protestant countries especially America, a nation founded by Protestants. Can’t you see the big difference? Worlds brightest minds prefer Protestant nations over Catholic nations for immigration. Can’t you see the big difference between South America and United Sates of America?. Why this difference? (The Bible says by their fruits you can recognize them!).
The Bible and the verifiable facts testify against Catholicism. Only those who are not interested in truth will defend Catholicism and remain in it.
“Firstly the Catholic teachings contradict the clear written revelation in the Bible.”
Actually, that’s not true. All Catholic teachings are affirmed by Scripture.
“The Catholic Church has destroyed the name of Christianity with what it did through the dark ages.”
False. The Catholic Church preserved knowledge in monasteries that might have otherwise been lost during the Dark Ages. This is historical fact.
“The Bible and the verifiable facts testify against Catholicism.”
Also false. There’s ample evidence to the contrary.
“All Catholic teachings are affirmed by Scripture”
Funny!
Where does the Bible say that Mary is the Queen of Heaven?. Where does the Bible say you can pray to Mary for mediation and where is an example given in the Bible? Where does the Bible say you can pray to dead mediators and for the dead? Where is an example given in the Bible for making of graven images of Mary and others for worship? (I can ask more). Yes, you can misinterpret the Bible to suit your arguments but not establish from the Bible
No. if God is the author no portion of the Bible would have lost. God doesn’t need human help. Where there any Catholic monasteries for the compilation and preservation of the OT during pre advent period ? Then why are you talking about monasteries which were in fact places of torture of human souls.
Haven’t you heard about the crusades where millions were slaughtered (for whatever reason) and inquisitions and all kinds of corruptions and child abuse and political fights and sexual scandals of Popes,……….which created a bad name for Christianity?
You can say only no, no,…. just like any good Catholic would do but you can’t defend Catholicism with facts.
Jesus said by their fruits you can recognize them. Just look at USA (built by Protestants on protestant work ethics) and Latin American countries (created by immigrant Catholics) and compare. Why Catholic Latin America countries are no match for the Protestant United States?. Religion makes the difference. Do you know that the best and brightest minds including Catholics from around the world prefer protestant nations like,America, Britain, Australia, New Zealand… for immigration and permanent settlement over Catholic nations?. You can see very clear difference in quality between communities created by Catholic population and Protestant/Evangelical population in African and Asian countries. If you are willing to see you can see these clear facts.
Again, the scripture and facts testify against Catholicism. You can only defend it with mere meaningless words.
Mary’s Queenship in Scripture: http://www.edwardsri.com/blog/is-marys-queenship-biblical/
Prayer to saints (which includes Mary, but during the time the NT was written Mary was still alive, so any reference to prayer to her would, of course, be in the context of asking for prayers from fellow Christians here on Earth): http://www.catholic.com/tracts/praying-to-the-saints
Where does the Bible say you can pray to dead mediators and for the dead? (BTW, what do you mean by “dead mediators”?) Same link: http://www.catholic.com/tracts/praying-to-the-saints
Graven images: http://www.catholic.com/blog/tim-staples/so-catholics-worship-statues
“Yes, you can misinterpret the Bible to suit your arguments but not establish from the Bible.”
Yes, this is exactly what happens with Protestantism. Look at the thousands of denominations that all claim to interpret the Bible correctly. They can’t all be right. Without an authoritative interpreter, how do we know?
If you do have any other questions, please let me know! I’m more than happy to help answer them.
“God doesn’t need human help.”
No, but He allows us to help. And we need to cooperate with our own salvation — He gives us the choice to reject Him if we choose.
“Where there any Catholic monasteries for the compilation and preservation of the OT during pre advent period ?” I’m not sure what you mean by “pre advent period.” Can you clarify?
“Then why are you talking about monasteries which were in fact places of torture of human souls?” Do you have evidence to back up this assertion that monasteries tortured human souls?
Re: the Crusades – http://www.catholiceducation.org/en/controversy/the-crusades/crusade-myths.html
Re: the Inquisitions: http://www.catholic.com/blog/jon-sorensen/the-myth-of-the-spanish-inquisition
“all kinds of corruptions and child abuse and political fights and sexual scandals of Popes” – yup, those happened, in all human institutions, not just the Catholic Church. Humans are sinful. Isn’t it amazing that in 2,000 years of Church history, She has never once taught error as doctrine despite the sins of some of Her leaders? And that she still remains despite the sins and scandals of Her members over the years? How fortunate we are that the holiness of the Church is not dependent upon the holiness of Her members!
Can you please show me a church that in which all its members are sinless? I don’t believe that one exists.
I don’t think the differences between Catholic and Latin America countries are as simple as Catholic vs Protestant.
“Again, the scripture and facts testify against Catholicism. You can only defend it with mere meaningless words.” Actually I’ve just proven it with documented evidence. Care to respond to that evidence?
‘Firstly the Catholic teachings contradict the clear written revelation in the Bible’
Well that’s an odd statement as the Catholic Church is the reason you have a Bible at all. There were no other forms/versions of Christianity at that time- only Catholic. Are you saying the Church put together the Bible and then went against it? How silly.
‘ Only those who are not interested in truth will defend Catholicism and remain in it.’
No, only those who defy the Truth will leave the Church Christ Himself instituted. All other churches are founded by men not Christ.
You poor stupid bastards. The Pope is anti-Christian. When are you all going to wake up and realize that? Thank God, I’m not a Catholic.
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No damn way. Long ago before Malachi Martin, Alberto Riviera, Adam Weishaupt, Ignatius Loyola, Francis Borgia, Saint Jerome or many other Roman Catholics came along Satanism has existed inside the Vatican. It has NOT been in concert with biblical scripture forever in the past. No Papacy is in the New Testament.
Actually, Peter’s papacy is in the new testament. See Matthew 16:18.
Isn’t it amazing that in 2,000 years, the Catholic Church has never taught error as doctrine in the realm of faith and morals, even with some very evil people within the Church? That smacks of supernatural protection to me.
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This man is not the TRUE Pope. He has no authority, for he is a Freemason – a member of the ROTARY CLUB.
Well, since you have words in ALL CAPS, you can OBVIOUSLY provide EVIDENCE to back up your ACCUSATIONS.
These are NOT accusations, but the Truth. And if you need proof for what I say (which are all out there), then you may provide the proof of the validity of his non-canonical election as well as the validity of his status as a Catholic (since no Pope can partake to any kind of masonic organization).
Why are you defending the lies of this man? Are you paid by the “KatholiK Gestapo” that ousted Pope Benedict XVI?
Here is the PROOF that Jorge Mario Bergoglio (“pope” Francis) is a
member of the ROTARY CLUB, a global Free-masonic organization. And right below it I inserted what the Catholic Church has to say
about belonging to the ROTARY CLUB.
Um… I see no evidence in this picture of an article from 1951 that proves Pope Francis is a member of the Rotary Club.
No worries: I was sent to you for this reason, indeed. I love to make the blind see. I will re-post HIS membership here below, sister.
I still wonder how you can write on a blog when you are blind, yourself 🙂
Funny, I was wondering the same about you, brother. Especially given that you post random articles from 1951 with no relevance to the topic at hand.
How can the blind lead the blind?
And when did you sell your soul to Satan? I ask because you have been denying every single evidence provided; therefore you cannot be anything other than another corrupt infiltrator meant to ruin our Church. Mother Angelica had a big problem with fake Catholics who propagate a false religion under the False Prophet.
Repent before it is too late for you.
The fact that you presume to judge the state of my soul, which is reserved for God alone, is very telling. I have in fact provided proof that your so-called evidence is false. You simply refuse to see it. Let him who has eyes to see, let him see.
I am not judging your soul, my friend. I only tell you that what you spread are lies, and lies do not come from God. Or am I to thank you for defending heresies?
You are lying about me when you say I spread heresies, because I do no such thing.
Can you read English, darling? I said DEFEND and not SPREAD. Or do you ALSO spread heresies, now?
Please do not call me darling.
Why do you lie, Paul?
Are you a Catholic? You sound like a Protestant to me.
I’m a former Protestant. I converted to Catholicism in 2003. I believe and profess everything that the holy Catholic Church believes, professes, and teaches as divine truth.
Are you a sedevacantist? My experience they are unable to provide actual evidence to be back up their wild accusations, and thus resort to strange insults and lies to defend their positions.
You seem to have remained a Protestant, my dear. Do you know what the Catholic Church teaches? It does not teach heresy – that is for sure. You do not see the heresy in what Bergoglio said about the Mother of Christ because you Protestants do not accept her perpetual immaculate nature.
Very simple.
God Bless +++
Why do you lie, Paul? Absolutely Mary is immaculate. One reading my comments can clearly see I never said or claimed otherwise, nor has Pope Francis, as I have aptly proved.
“By the end of the decade, the Catholic Truth Society was able to declare that “Rotary is neither secret nor seditious”. It was nevertheless still regarded as a “society banned under pain of sin only” and not of “sin and excommunication”. Gradually there was a thaw in relations between the Church and Rotary. In 1970 Pope Pius VI addressed Rotarians in Italy, and in 1979 Pope John Paul II spoke to the International Convention in Rome, praising some of Rotary’s humanitarian programmes at a special audience in the Vatican. Later he accepted a Paul Harris Fellowship and a World Understanding and Peace Award from Rotary, while Catholic priests throughout the world were taking positions of authority, even serving as District Governors.”
http://www.rotaryfirst100.org/history/history/otherorganizations/freemasonry/#.VTVAwSFViko
it is sad to see people here defending the catholic ‘institution’ as if it is the main institution of Christianity, because it isnt. there are Christians who practice as Catholics, but many who are not. only disciples of Jesus Christ are Christians, not ‘catholics.’ In 2014, this pope had the reading of the muslim koran in St. Peter’s, with muslim prayers also – never done in the history of the catholics. this is not what Christ Jesus would do, or condone. the catholic church as an institution is doomed. the gates of hell will not prevail against the body of Christ, the church of Jesus Christ, not the “catholic” church. Good grief, people, get over yourselves. the arrogance that catholics have referring to their institution as “the church” is ridiculous, and wrong – all based on the idea that Peter was the first “pope” – he wasnt. he was just Christ’s lead apostle after his Ascension – it was NOT meant to incorporate a “Catholic” monopoly on Christianity.
there are so many red flags with this current ‘leader’ of the catholics i cannot believe you people acknowledge him. Just for instance, HOW MANY OF YOU CATHOLICS WOULD APPROVE OF YOUR LOCAL PASTOR HAVING A MUSLIM IMAM READING THE MUSLIM QURAN AND RECITING MUSLIM PRAYERS FROM THE ALTAR OF YOUR CATHOLIC CHURCH THIS SUNDAY? Honestly. you would be incensed at your pastor, correct? it is blasphemy given what muslims speak about Jesus Christ, that he never died on a cross, etc, etc. WELL, GUESS WHAT, that is what your global “pastor” did. in one of his many distorted, misguided efforts at trying to forge “peace” – he allowed blasphemers to preach in church at St. Peter’s.
But you know what I have found? I have found that most Catholics are way more committed to DEFENDING CATHOLICISM and THE POPE and THE CATHOLIC INSTITUTION, than they are about BEING PURE and COMMITTED to the PURE, HOLY GOSPEL of JESUS CHRIST. Just like many of you on here will go find a way to minimize and deflect and discount and chide what I say about these muslim blasphemers praying and reading blasphemy at the BEHEST of the “vicar” of Christ Jesus on earth.
Go ahead and mock me. I am a married father of 5 who is a devoted follower/disciple of Jesus Christ, who was baptized, raised catholic (and I do NOT hate the catholic institution, but have great affection for it), but I have come out of the catholic “program” because it veered from the pure Gospel of Jesus Christ, holy living, Biblical authority & exegesis, etc. Catholics would rather defend CATHOLICISM and “the church” and the “tradition” than really defend the absolute purity of Biblical truth and the real prophets of the Kingdom.
Go ahead and attack away. i expect it. Defend “catholicism” all day long, it is what you have unknowingly idolized, many of you.
St. Ignatius of Antioch disagrees with you (ca. A.D. 110): “Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude [of the people] also be; even as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church.” http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0109.htm
I have yet to find a single accusation accusing Pope Francis of destroying Doctrine to be true. Why are people slandering and lying about him like this?
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…….LONG HELD DOCTRINE,YOU MEAN TEACHINGS FOR CENTURIES THAT Slavery was not against natural law,charging interest on a loan was always serious sin,se in marriage a necessary evil tainted with sin. etc Surely madame you jest.
correction:sex in marriage a necessary evil tainted with sin
Church teaching re: slavery (chattel slavery is always sinful; but this isn’t always the case with indentured slavery): http://www.catholiceducation.org/en/controversy/common-misconceptions/let-my-people-go-the-catholic-church-and-slavery.html
Church teaching re: usury (charging interest isn’t always a serious sin): http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=646
Church teaching on marriage (not a necessary evil): http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/1660.htm
Please learn what the Catholic Church actually teaches as opposed to what you think it teaches.
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to the author, you took examples from 1500’s? and before.. REALLY? as far as I know we have come out of the dark ages, and many have embraced Catholicism, and live by the practices.
THIS pope Francis, has made comments of non judgement to gays, that atheist are do gooders, and now if you have children you breed like rabbits. What I have noticed is in pictures and videos, CHILDREN are terrified of this pope, DOGS bark at him, and cats hiss. Something is definitely wrong with this pope. His one purpose is to win the popular vote, and if he has to step on all the Catholics to do it, he has no problem with it. It sickens Catholics to see ONE MAN who was chosen to be pope to be so LIBERAL that let it all hang out is the motto he carries around his neck. There is no freedom speeches for journalist about the true nature of politics and religion, only censure. Pope Francis IS destroying Catholicism in a back handed slap kind of way, and the true Catholics have noticed. When he is called to heaven it will not be too soon for the true Catholics on this earth.
I encourage you to read what Pope Francis has actually said as opposed to what you think he said (or what the media has reported he said). For example, Pope Francis did NOT say “if you have children you breed like rabbits.” That is calumny. Please see here: http://littlecatholicbubble.blogspot.com/2015/01/breeding-like-rabbits-eh.html
Pope Francis has never promulgated any teachings that are in opposition to Church teaching, either formally or informally. If you think the has, I’d be interested to see examples (and then I can explain to you how you are mistaken).
The catholic church is corrupt. It always has been. The faith that some people hold because of them however is real. Look at the facts. The roman took over Christianity when they realized they couldnt control it. The pope at the time unilaterally decided what would be allowed in the bible and what wouldnt (namely only those parts which strengthened a mans position and not a womans) Should it surprise you that it is corrupt when the most corrupt culture in the world were the ones who molded it? I believe you read the bible (all of it, not just what the church has told you is accepted) and then you take what you can from it learn and share this knowledge. One needs no blessing from a man in white or red or black to be forgiven his/her sins. I do however challenge everyone to find a church in the world in christianity that is not corrupt in some way shape or form? It will be a challenge as we are all sinners. Even the pope.
Yes, the pope is indeed a sinner! The Church has never said otherwise. Pretty amazing that the Church has never taught error as doctrine in light of the sinful popes who have been at Her head, isn’t it?
Question – if we were meant to take our sins directly to God, why did Jesus establish the sacrament of reconciliation? Why did He give the Church the power and authority to bind and loose sins if She has no responsibility to do so?
Wow, this is so full of misconceptions and outright lies that it’s hard to know where to begin. Jason, if you’re ever interested in learning what the Catholic Church actually teaches instead of what you think it teaches, let me know. Oh, and you might want to brush up on your history as well, as it’s quite incorrect.